[HAM] Hammond C3 to Marshall ampWilliam Mark Bristow gracefelch at earthlink.netThu Jun 12 09:34:02 CDT 2003
I've high-powered several Leslies and regularly play with 2 Bill Beer 122's bi-amped at 180 watts with JBL drivers -- experience shows they will handle a 10,000 seat auditorium. For the Marshall 100 w head I would use one of the new Ferro-fluid Leslie Treble Drivers -- they are great. They are rated at 100 watts at 16 ohms. You can get one of the new 15" bass speakers from Leslie - they are rated at 100 watts and are 16 ohms then you should be able to use the original crossover. The components are available at www.goffprof.com or call Hammond-Suzuki for a dealer near you. (I have run an original crossover from a 1970 Leslie 122 with a 100 watt amp.) This new treble driver has a very similar rolloff above 6000 hz just like the old Leslie drivers so it produces a similar sound. If you want other drivers, remember the Hammond sound needs a sharp rolloff above 6000 or they sound really shrill and tinny (though some like it). You'll do better with a driver with a phenolic diaphram - which the original Leslie drivers had. If you go 8 ohm speakers, you'll need an 8 ohm crossover - the Leslies cross at 800 hz with a 12db per octove rolloff. You'll need to rig up a converter from the six-pin 147 hookup to Marshall amp with a 120 volt single pole double throw relay and a/c plugs to switch the motors. www.captain-foldback.com has Uncle Harvey's Leslie Pinout guide and you can see the Leslie 147 hookup. It's something like: (1 & 6 may be opposite -- check the pinout guide - I can't remember which is which) PLEASE NOTE: THERE IS 120 AC volts on pins 2,3,4,5 of this CABLE and it CAN KILL!!! 1 - signal 2 - 120 volt relay switching 3 - a/c 120 volts to speaker 4 - a/c 120 volts to speaker 5 - 120 volt relay switching 6 - signal ground Although your C3 produced a push-pull (balanced) signal with ground and "G - G" terminals much like a low impedance XLR mic cable with ground (x), signal (L) or positive signal, and signal (R) negative signal - The 147 uses a single-ended or unbalanced signal just like the 1/4" male jack pluging into the Marshall from a guitar. The audio is obtained by picking up JUST ONE of the "G" terminals and ground which is what the 147 hookup uses. HOWEVER: the Hammond produces a VERY high gain signal - so if the Marshall has a high-gain input use that. Your Marshall (even with tubes) will probably produce a much harder, less warm sound than the original stock amp - but so do my Bill Beer Leslies which are the sound you hear on SANTANA or Fleetwood Mac or Eric Clapton. Some like it, some don't. I do, and since I sometimes play in very large venues or in outdoor settings and don't want to carry six Leslies - I opt for the high-power. Unfortunately Bill Beer has died, and his high-power Leslie amps have pretty much died with him and the schematics were secret. My Leslies use a JBL 2482 (with throat adaptor) treble driver 16 ohm, and an 8 ohm JBL E-140 bass. They are bi-amped with 100 watts bass and 80 watts treble. The volume is from 1 - 10 like a standard Leslie and if you play them at volume settings over "7" and are sitting within 20 feet of them, you'll permanently damage your hearing. Once in a while a Bill Beer Leslie comes for sale on Ebay or the trade papers of a large city. They are very well built and his amps are almost indestructible - but a tech has to reverse engineer them to work on them. If you like the sound, and many do, they out-scream any Leslie I have heard to date. Hope this helps, Mark Bristow [ Deleted '-----Original Message-----' ]
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