[HAM] B3 question

[KAZ]

This is caused by tone wheel capasitor degradation.
In several decades,capasitor value increases about 2or 3times for initial value.
This problem will be settled by changing capasitors.
Please refer next URL.
http://www.goffprof.com/shopping.jsp?p=51


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>   1. B3 question: (Luther Nallie)
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>   3. Re: B3 question: (Drew Hoelscher)
>   4. Re: B3 question: (Ferpini)
>   5. Re: B3 question: (Luther Nallie)
>   6. AO29 wiring diagram (George Matthis)
>   7. Re: AO29 wiring diagram (PREACHG1 at aol.com)
>   8. Re: AO29 wiring diagram (Eric Pratt)
>   9. Re: AO29 wiring diagram (George Matthis)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:58:45 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Luther Nallie <lnallie at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [HAM] B3 question:
> To: hammond at zeni.net
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> After many years of amplifiers blaring in my ears on the bandstand and working in a music store I have lost some highs in my 
> hearing.  With that being said, I have a B3 and 2 122's and it seems like it is sounding more "bassy" to me.  With some 
> drawbar combinations I hear the highs better but with the normal 888000000 with perc on, it sounds like it has lost some highs 
> and also the 888800000 sounds the same.  I was wondering what wears out (1957 B3) that could cause the loss of highs (except 
> my hearing).  Is that a candidate for recapping or tubes or both possibly?  It also sounds like my perc is not as pronounced 
> as it was.  If I turn the percussion volume tab on "normal" it is pretty loud, but on soft, I think where most people use it, 
> it sounds like it could be more "out there".  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  By the way, even if it was perfect, I 
> would still sound like a guitar player trying to play a B3.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Luther
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> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:22:13 -0700
> From: OF <scott195 at centurytel.net>
> Subject: Re: [HAM] B3 question:
> To: The Hammond Forum <hammond at zeni.net>
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> At 04:58 PM 10/27/2006, Luther Nallie wrote:
>>After many years of amplifiers blaring in my ears on the bandstand and
>>working in a music store I have lost some highs in my hearing.  With that
>>being said, I have a B3 and 2 122's and it seems like it is sounding more
>>"bassy" to me.  With some drawbar combinations I hear the highs better but
>>with the normal 888000000 with perc on, it sounds like it has lost some
>>highs and also the 888800000 sounds the same.  I was wondering what wears
>>out (1957 B3) that could cause the loss of highs (except my hearing).  Is
>>that a candidate for recapping or tubes or both possibly?  It also sounds
>>like my perc is not as pronounced as it was.  If I turn the percussion
>>volume tab on "normal" it is pretty loud, but on soft, I think where most
>>people use it, it sounds like it could be more "out there".  Any
>>suggestions would be appreciated.  By the way, even if it was perfect, I
>>would still sound like a guitar player trying to play a B3.
>
> So, how can be sure that it is NOT your ears?
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:43:35 -0400
> From: Drew Hoelscher <dahoelscher at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [HAM] B3 question:
> To: The Hammond Forum <hammond at zeni.net>
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> I'm 53.  I found a hearing test on the net which graphs the frequency
> response of your ears (don't remember which site -- there are many, this
> was the best of them).  I have a good sound card, great amp and great
> cans.  I found that my ears are pretty much dead at about 12K to 14K and
> above.  I also brought a great 'scope home from work for a weekend to
> check on the test -- it checked out voltage and frequency wise.
>
> My memory supports this hearing loss as I know that I don't hear cymbals
> as sounding anything like they did in my 20's.  Also, I used to be able
> to hear the flyback transformers in TV's when I was a bench tech.
>
> Anyway, after a little more research I found that the frequency response
> of my ears is very close to being perfectly normal for a 53 year old
> male.  I don't like it, but that's 's the reality of  the situation.
>
> I happened to be at the office of an ENT specialist this AM.  He has a
> hearing aid business as well.  I inquired about the price of a
> professional exam -- $200.00.  Ouch!  I may try to get a referral from
> my PCP to have this done, just so I know.
>
> Getting old is a bitch, but the alternative sucks.
>
> - Drew
>
>
> Luther Nallie wrote:
>> After many years of amplifiers blaring in my ears on the bandstand and working in a music store I have lost some highs in my 
>> hearing.  With that being said, I have a B3 and 2 122's and it seems like it is sounding more "bassy" to me.  With some 
>> drawbar combinations I hear the highs better but with the normal 888000000 with perc on, it sounds like it has lost some 
>> highs and also the 888800000 sounds the same.  I was wondering what wears out (1957 B3) that could cause the loss of highs 
>> (except my hearing).  Is that a candidate for recapping or tubes or both possibly?  It also sounds like my perc is not as 
>> pronounced as it was.  If I turn the percussion volume tab on "normal" it is pretty loud, but on soft, I think where most 
>> people use it, it sounds like it could be more "out there".  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  By the way, even if it 
>> was perfect, I would still sound like a guitar player trying to play a B3.
>>
>>   Thanks,
>>   Luther
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:13:33 -0500
> From: "Ferpini" <ferpini at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [HAM] B3 question:
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> Try manipulating the "tone control" pot on chassis of the AO-28
> pre-amplifier (from the back of the organ).  Its a cheap place to start.
> The other pot controls the percussion decay time, and you might like a
> little slower decay if your percussion is weak.  Tubes and a pre-amp rebuild
> should precede any thoughts about recapping the TWG.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Bishop
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:21:12 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Luther Nallie <lnallie at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [HAM] B3 question:
> To: The Hammond Forum <hammond at zeni.net>
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> I'm not sure, Scott......but I have heard other B3's and hear everything like it is supposed to sound, but maybe you're right.
>
> OF <scott195 at centurytel.net> wrote:
>
>  So, how can be sure that it is NOT your ears?
>
>    >At 04:58 PM 10/27/2006, Luther Nallie wrote:
>>After many years of amplifiers blaring in my ears on the bandstand and
>>working in a music store I have lost some highs in my hearing. With that
>>being said, I have a B3 and 2 122's and it seems like it is sounding more
>>"bassy" to me.
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:42:46 -0400
> From: "George Matthis" <gmatthis at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [HAM] AO29 wiring diagram
> To: "The Hammond Forum" <hammond at zeni.net>
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> Hi:
>
> Does anyone have a clean, dark copy of "Figure 36B - Underside of Amplifier - Type AO - 29 - Model M3 Console" they could scan 
> and email to me?  My eyes are getting old and I just can't make out the component numbers on the copy I've got!
>
> Thanks
> George
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:59:49 EDT
> From: PREACHG1 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [HAM] AO29 wiring diagram
> To: hammond at zeni.net
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> You're quite welcome.
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:07:26 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Eric Pratt <ericmusicus at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [HAM] AO29 wiring diagram
> To: The Hammond Forum <hammond at zeni.net>
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> Hi George, I'm attaching that file for you, BUT since
> you mentioned it's "fig. 36 b", it's probably the same
> file you can't make out anymore. Sometimes if you get
> it as an attachment from another person, you get a
> better version that when you d/l it yourself, wierd.
>
> In the unlikely event you don't get what you need, I
> have an original M3 schematic that I don't ever use if
> you need it, could snail mail it, don't use it, it'd
> cost me 39 cents, which I don't think would break the
> bank (haha). Last ditch I know, but thought I'd throw
> it out there anyway.
>
> Regards, Eric Pratt
>
>
>
> --- George Matthis <gmatthis at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> Does anyone have a clean, dark copy of "Figure 36B -
>> Underside of Amplifier - Type AO - 29 - Model M3
>> Console" they could scan and email to me?  My eyes
>> are getting old and I just can't make out the
>> component numbers on the copy I've got!
>>
>> Thanks
>> George
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:36:28 -0400
> From: "George Matthis" <gmatthis at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [HAM] AO29 wiring diagram
> To: "The Hammond Forum" <hammond at zeni.net>
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> Eric:
>
> Thanks! - I'm replying off-list with an address.
>
> George
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> From: "Eric Pratt" <ericmusicus at yahoo.com>
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> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [HAM] AO29 wiring diagram
>
>
>> Hi George, I'm attaching that file for you, BUT since
>> you mentioned it's "fig. 36 b", it's probably the same
>> file you can't make out anymore. Sometimes if you get
>> it as an attachment from another person, you get a
>> better version that when you d/l it yourself, wierd.
>>
>> In the unlikely event you don't get what you need, I
>> have an original M3 schematic that I don't ever use if
>> you need it, could snail mail it, don't use it, it'd
>> cost me 39 cents, which I don't think would break the
>> bank (haha). Last ditch I know, but thought I'd throw
>> it out there anyway.
>>
>> Regards, Eric Pratt
>>
>
>
>
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