[HAM] Rudy's C-3 Rant - was, Single louver

joe d joedoria at hotmail.com
Wed Apr 4 15:54:39 CDT 2007


I wonder if this is truth but i read once RVG would take a direct out of the 
organ and two mics on the top in the center (not on each side for wider 
spread).
Can anyone confirm this?


>From: OF <scott195 at centurytel.net>
>Reply-To: The Hammond Forum <hammond at zeni.net>
>To: The Hammond Forum <hammond at zeni.net>
>Subject: [HAM] Rudy's C-3 Rant - was, Single louver
>Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 09:33:40 -0700
>
>At 03:20 AM 4/4/2007, Kon Zissis wrote:
> >The Rudy Van Gelder 1959 C3 is probably one of the most famous Hammonds
> >in the world  and for the Jazz / Blues lovers the sound of this 1959 C3 
>[snip]
> >If I ever get to the United States and I am ever given permission to
> >check out this 1959 C3 , I would measure the TG output curve  and then
> >put the data in my TG spreadsheet for all to see. After doing  this then
> >it might then be my turn to duck and run like hell  because a few
> >elitist purists who are offended that the "magic" of this 1959 C3 is now
> >publicly revealed will want to grab me and slap my face and kick my
> >backside :-).
>
>Kon,
>There is no "magic" in that organ. It's all in the recording process. It's
>a fairly ordinary C-3. Pardon me for continuing to harp on this, but maybe
>I'm slightly stung by this "elitist purist" thing. Maybe the shoe fits,
>maybe I'll wear it. And it's obvious to me who else you're referring to--
>someone who has been inside the studio and is intimately familiar with the
>organ. You misconstrue that person's motives. It is not the revelation of
>any TG curves that offends anyone, it's the idea that this makes much
>difference at all, in the end. On top of that,  the possible variables
>involved in making such measurements from one organ to the next are many,
>even without taking into account all the other possible variables from one
>setup to the next.
>
>The people who have made famous recordings on that organ, people like
>Jimmy, Ray Charles, etc. etc., are master players, and their taste and
>techniques, coupled with Rudy's superb recording, are what make the records
>sound so good. Even a simple but gigantic variable like where do you set
>the expression pedal makes a ton of difference in the tone. Notice that all
>of these guys get a different sound out of that same organ. It's the way
>they play. I could ID McDuff playing that organ in three notes. I wish I
>could pose an experiment, but it can't be done. I would put my C-3, or my
>B-3, or practically any console in there and make the same recordings. They
>would sound just about the same and I would collect my $1,000 bet!
>
>I know there are legions of people who are fascinated by these TG curves
>and I know it's an interesting hobby for you, but my perspective needs to
>be in there too: my viewpoint is that the real magic is in the PLAYING and
>the RECORDINGS. The old song, "It Ain't the Meat, It's the Motion" is
>totally apt here. Most women already know this.
>
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