[HAM] How many organs and chopped HammondsWilliam Mark Bristow gfc at classicnet.netTue Jul 3 09:15:36 CDT 2007
Guys, First, why all the yelling and name calling? I have always enjoyed reading the list - and have learned valuable information to keep my (and a few friend's) Tone Generated Hammonds alive. To read the list the last couple of days has been very discouraging. One of the Hammonds I currently own is a Bob Schleicher Full Chop with pedals and bench. The chop is made so that when set-up it is to the exact dimensions and spacing of pedals, keyboard height, bench height, etc., it duplicates a B3 perfectly. I purchased it as a chop from Bob and it travels in two road cases - one for the organ and one for the pedals and bench. All components are mounted, secured and designed for the road. I did that so as not to destroy a B3 cabinet. I remember well renting a B3 and Leslie from a famous dealer in LA a few years back. Bill Beer maintained the guts - but the dealer didn't do much to maintain the cabinet - and it was delivered to the ballroom of the Disneyland Hotel in an anvil case. Though it sounded great, the B3 cabinet was literally duck taped together. That's one of many road organ stories. That's why I researched and purchased what I consider to be the finest chop available. I previously owned a Cordovox organ and 330 (solid state pro Leslie 145) - sorry couldn't afford a B3 at that time. Then I owned a B-3000 and HL-722 Leslie (I know - I don't know what I was thinking.) Then I bought a late model (marked footages on drawbars and fluted plastic chorus knob) B3 chop and added pedals myself using 50 pair telephone cabling and connectors - I can still smell the solder. I bought it with 2 stock 122's. Although the chop was well made and sounded fantastic there were constant road-a-bility problems concerning the tubes in the Leslies and the Hammond pre-amp in the organ. I eventually had George Benton of Benton Electronics high-power the Leslies using Hammond Condor solid state 100 watt amps and he built custom solid-state switching boards for the Leslies. I currently own an XB-5 full Hammond portable with the XB engine. The XB-5 is paired with 2 760's outfitted with JBL M-151-4 bottoms and 2470 top drivers. I also have a little 322 Leslie that came with the organ - which Bill Beer was high-powering when he died. I have never liked the simulated bottom rotor in that Leslie so we don't use it much. We have the EIS full chop (finished in black) which is paired with 2 Bill Beer 122 High Power Leslies (formerly my 122's from the original B3 refurbed and high powered by Bill Beer). We had a cabinet maker lay black formica on the Leslies and route the louvers. They have anvil aluminum strips and chromed ball corners - making the Leslie itself into a nice looking road-case. The 122's use a solid-state 100/100 watt bi-amp of Bill's design and appear to the organ as a 122. They use JBL E-140-8 woofers and JBL 2482 treble drivers and play about 3 times as loud as a stock 122. They will also go into a tube-type blur when overdriven. The EIS chop uses a Trek-II solid-state preamp customized by Bob Schleicher. IMHO the preamp with Bob's mods sounds much better than any stock TREK-II equipped organs I have played. I also have an XK-3 and Motion-Sound Pro-145 (and Leslie 2101) which we use in small venues - and those without funds for roadies. And I have a stock 1953 B2 and 1960's stock 145 Leslie which sounds great - though I should refinish the cabinet's of both. The EIS B3 chop and Beer 122's is my favorite rig for sound, playability and power. Next comes the B2 & 145, then the XB-5 & 760's, then the XK-3 & Motion-Sound. The XK sound's great - but it is the playability factor of trying to fit pedals, lower manual, upper manual onto one keyboard. It can be done and sounds good and I can put the XK3 and Pro-145 in my car - or fly it (in cases). But it requires a real modifying of my playing style which can be frustrating for me - to create and hear what I want to hear. Friends who work with me regularly can't tell much difference in what they hear - so it's just nuances and more in my head probably. As a working musician, I very much appreciate the information dispersed through this list. Thanks. William Mark Bristow
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