[HAM] Procul Harum 1 revisited

[Phil Boug]

Hi Lazlo...

Hey, and what's wrong with "End of the Blackpool pier"-type organ playing? 
HaHaHaHa..

I love Theatre Organ as well as Hammond, and was recently privileged to have 
a couple of sessions on a Compton 3/9 here in Australia.
This organ was originally istalled in a cinema in Warrington Lancashire, UK 
and last month celebrated it's 70th birthday.
Blows ANY Leslie into the weeds....LOL

Incidentally, can ANYONE tell me why the B3 is so much more desirable than 
the C3?

Given that they are electrically and mechanically identical, and the B3 
looks like it was designed by a committee, whereas the C3 is very 
attractive.

Why Why Why?

Regards,

Phil

C3, H100, Conn 580, 145, 247.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lazlo More" <lazlomore at yahoo.co.uk>
To: "The Hammond Forum" <hammond at zeni.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [HAM] Procul Harum 1 revisited


> Hi all. It's always interesting to get the insider details on what people 
> used when (thanks Kon).
>  The impression I get from conversations that I've had with the organ 
> cognoscenti here in the UK is that C3 wasn't available in the UK until the 
> mid-to-late 60s. Before then, spinets were generally used. This has a lot 
> to do with the fact that UK emerging organ players didn't really know the 
> how their US counterparts were getting their sound. They assumed it was 
> just a Hammond, not reasling it was actually a console version. The two 
> main serious British jazz/rnb organists in the early 60s were Alan Haven 
> and Harry Stoneham, who both used the Lowrey Heritage organ. Jazz on a 
> spinet has always struck me as more of a UK sound. Players such as Wild 
> BIll Davis and JOS etc took longer than people realise to have a major 
> impact on the organ-buying players in the UK. It also explains why in the 
> early 60s there was so much "End of the Blackpool pier"-type organ 
> playing, and not the grit of JOS and the like. Had a C3 been available, 
> then I imagine it  would have been used sooner by
> the likes of Procul Harum, Jon Lord and Keith Emerson.
>  Incidently, the B3 is still rare as hens' teeth here in the UK, unlike 
> the C3, which Boosey and Hawkes distributed in decent amounts.
>
>  regards
>  Lazlo
>
> zemail.com.au> wrote:
>  Part of my post was truncated again so I hope that it appears properly
> this time. Sorry for the multiple post.
>
> Hi Lynn and everyone .
> Jon Lord used an L-100 organ during his time with the R&B band ''The
> Artwoods'' from 1964 to 1967
> The only time that I have seen Jon Lord with an M series organ during
> the Deep Purple years is from a photo of Jon Lord with a white M-100
> series organ on a mimed performance on a TV show from 1971 and
> also on a film clip of Deep Purple miming the song " Fireball" on a
> TV show from around 1970 or 71.
> Jon Lord used a C3 throughout all the Deep Purple years and beyond.
> The two Deep Purple songs "Emaretta" and ''Shadows" which were recorded
> in early 1968 before the first album "Shades of Deep Purple" was
> recorded feature a thinner sounding organ more like that of a spinet
> organ sound so therefore I suspect that this might have been an L-100
> series or an M-100 series organ used before Deep Purple's Edwards &
> Colletta management bought the C3 organ for Jon Lord on hire purchase.
>
>
> The first five Deep Purple albums from 1968 to 1970 feature an early
> 60's C3 organ ( wax capacitors on the TG and the vibrato line box and a
> black power transformer on the AO28 ) with the traditional American C3
> cabinet style .
> On the 1971 album ''Machine Head " Jon Lord used a 50's or very early
> 60's ( the vibrato / chorus knob was the earlier smooth rounded type )
> B3 or a C3 or an A100 organ that was chopped and transplanted into a
> portable white cabinet with metal legs. This particular organ was
> only used on the Machine Head album and it appears on some TV film
> clips and live footage from 1971. I do not know what became of this
> white chop organ but I have read about a rumour that it ended up at the
> bottom of a river in the USA ( I think the Hudson River ? ) .
> From 1972 onwards Jon Lord has been using a late 60's or early 70's
> Boosey & Hawkes UK built C3 with the simplified UK / European C3
> cabinet style and with the late era square shaped drawbar knobs with the
> footages stamped on them. Jon Lord bought this C3 from Christine McVie (
> Fleetwood Mac ) and I believe that this is the same C3 that Jon Lord
> used until he retired from Deep Purple a few years ago ( when I met Jon
> Lord in 2001 he told me that this was the Christine McVie C3 ) . This
> is the C3 that was heavily modified and the cabinet was painted black
> after the mid 70's .
>
> Keith Emerson did use an L-100 organ and a C3 with The Nice and with
> Emerson Lake & Palmer.
> All the best.
> Kon
>
> Lynn Gee wrote:
>>BTW, many British rock groups used Ms and Ls - Deep Purple, ELP, to
> name a
>>couple.
>
>
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