[HAM] Tone wheels moving off centre in relation to the pickup magnet heads. Was The recapping controversyKon Zissis kziss at ozemail.com.auSun Jun 3 23:11:58 CDT 2007
Steve Leigh wrote: > Thought: if two tonewheels ran off center, ie; far from centered on >the coil pickup, wouldn't those freqs be weak? I have noticed this effect with the upper midrange and treble TG notes because the heads of the pickup magnets facing the tone wheels are very narrow so that this makes any slight off centre movement of the tone wheel audibly noticeable. The lower and the midrange frequency TG pickups have wider magnet heads so this means that there is very little if any change in the audible output of these tone wheels if they move off centre. Does anyone know why Hammond chose to use very narrow magnet heads for the upper midrange and treble tone wheel pickups ? The service manual states that large heads for the lower frequency tone wheel pickups are needed for good frequency output but that narrow pickup heads are needed for the higher frequency pickups in order to avoid excessive iron losses. What does "iron losses" mean in this context and how does this affect the outputs of the treble pickups ? I know that the term ''iron losses'' is used when discussing the metal core of transformers. Would there have been an audible problem if the full size magnet heads were used for the higher frequency tone wheels just as they were used for the full size magnet heads of the lower frequency tone wheel pickups? I imagine that it would have been less work for Hammond to simply use the full size magnet heads instead of having to do the extra work of grinding down to size the front end of the magnet pickup heads of the higher frequency tone wheels. With my 1962 C3 I have noticed an audible and measurable change of up to 10 millivolts peak to peak difference in the output levels of an upper midrange or treble tone wheel being centred properly and then being moved off centre simply by shaking the TG when it is mounted on the four springs. This change in output levels caused by the tone wheels moving a little off centre in relation to the pickup head has been a real nuisance to me when I was recalibrating the TG to produce a smooth volume level between the adjacent TG notes. I have noticed that with my 1962 C3 that if I cause the tone wheel to move off centre by shaking the TG then it stays off centre unless I shake the TG again . I have oiled the TG every year since I bought the C3 in 2002 and the TG starts up reasonably quickly with the start switch needing to be held on for around three or four seconds and the run and start switch then needing to be held for around three or four seconds so that the TG is running properly but even so I wonder if the TG does have some traces of deposits of dried oil in the bearings which causes the tone wheels to stay in place when they are moved off centre . There are a small number of slightly warbling notes here and there in the upper midrange and treble section. It would be a very time consuming and tedious job to have to unsolder all the wires and then take out the TG to do a through cleaning as Steve Leigh recommends but if a problem with warbling notes does become more apparent in the future then I will have to consider doing this procedure. All the best. Kon
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