[HAM] Vedr. Re: Generator Caps

Ivar Berg iberg1 at yahoo.no
Wed Feb 27 17:15:13 CST 2008


I was close to recap my organ. Then I plugged into
another 122 Leslie-amp. Then I found the problem. It
wasn't at all the organ! The Leslie-amp fooled me. 
51 years old, and the wax-caps still kicks! I’m
no tech, but this fact amazes me. How can electronic
parts last for over 50 years? And they do....
 


--- Jordan Kersten <jordankersten at hotmail.com> skrev:

> I'm sure there are many...the same people who call
> tech support saying, "My computer won't turn on!" 
> and it's not plugged in:)-Jordan-
> 
> > From: organtec at charter.net> To: hammond at zeni.net>
> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:36:56 -0500> Subject: Re:
> [HAM] Generator Caps> > I totally agree, but I
> wonder how many immediately jump to a recap frame
> of> mind without exploring the tone controls range.>
> > -----Original Message-----> From:
> hammond-bounces at zeni.net
> [mailto:hammond-bounces at zeni.net] On Behalf> Of
> Jordan Kersten> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008
> 5:17 PM> To: The Hammond Forum> Subject: Re: [HAM]
> Generator Caps> > Don't you think the first thing I
> did was adjust the tone control? And> turning the
> tone control would somehow make an entire generator
> full of> "bad" caps all better?-Jordan-> > > From:
> organtec at charter.net> To: hammond at zeni.net> Date:
> Wed, 27 Feb 2008> 17:08:25 -0500> Subject: Re: [HAM]
> Generator Caps> > Of course there is that> forgotten
> tone control......> > -----Original Message----->
> From:> hammond-bounces at zeni.net
> [mailto:hammond-bounces at zeni.net] On Behalf> Of>
> Scott Hawthorn> Sent: Wednesday,!
>   February 27, 2008 4:52 PM> To: The Hammond> Forum>
> Subject: Re: [HAM] Generator Caps> > At 01:37 PM
> 2/27/2008, Kon> Zissis wrote:> >Hi Scott.> >My
> comment about some people preferring the> mellower
> sound of wax capped> >organs and hating the brighter
> sound of> recapped or red mylar capped> >organs was
> because over the years that I have> been reading the
> Hammond> >forums a number of people have written
> that they> really love the tonal> >character of the
> pre 1964 wax capped organs and that> they strongly>
> >dislike the brighter sound of red mylar capped
> organs.> >> Funny, I don't remember seeing any
> comments like that, in ten years of >> reading. BTA,
> I'm not famous for my good memory.> > >Years ago I
> remember> reading the archives and someone wrote
> that the> >tonality of the wax capped> organs is
> like fine aged wine and that the> >wax capped organs
> have an "> earthy deep sound" and then you replied>
> >back to his person with something> like " you mean
> you have not heard a> >r!
>  ed mylar capped organ with an earthy> deep sound?
> C'mon! "> > Yeah, OK
> , there's one reference I don't remember.> But it
> supports my view > that these generalizations about
> how the organs> sound are crap.> > >I was not
> referring to you as one who prefers the> mellower
> aged wax caps> >sound and hates the brighter sound
> of red mylar> capped organs because> >you have
> explained several times that your concerns> about
> recapping are> >because of the incorrect way that
> people do it so> therefore your views> >about
> recapping would more likely be closer to my> comment
> "Amongst those> >who do support TG recapping in
> order to closely> approximate the original> >sound
> of the organ there is some controversy> about the
> correct way to> >do this. "> > OK, but every time
> you repeat your> summation of why some people don't
> like > recapping (and I am one of them),> you repeat
> this generalization about why > that is, when, in
> fact, I think> the majority of those who do object
> do so > on the basis of the technical> reasons you
> outline, not on this "fine wine" > arg!
>  ument that seldom comes> up. Therefore I think you
> are doing a disservice > to the issue by stating> it
> in that way.> > >As my huge post yesterday explained
> , my own views about> TG recapping> >are in
> agreement with your view that recapping has to be
> done> properly> >in order to closely approximate the
> original sound and that the> practice> >of using pre
> packaged " caps in a bag" is just as technically>
> incorrect> >as buying capacitors from a shop without
> first determining the> correct> >mfd value needed by
> each transformer filter choke.> > Please> consider
> that out of those considering a recap, there is
> maybe one > out of> a thousand of us who are
> equipped and qualified to make the > necessary>
> measurements. My view is that recapping as a home
> project should > be firmly> discouraged.> > >Can you
> please describe what it was that you disliked about>
> the sound of> >the then new 1974 B3 ?> > Weak bass,
> weird keyboard action.> No balls.> > > -->
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