[HAM] Percussion & Matching TransformerJordan Kersten jordankersten at hotmail.comThu Jan 10 22:11:35 CST 2008
Thank you so much for your help, I do have a small core transformer and I also have the percussion switch that fits under the "B" preset key that I am going to install. Is there somewhere online I can find these Service Manuals and Diagrams? ---------------------------------------- > From: thermionic27609 at earthlink.net > Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:38:47 -0500 > To: hammond at zeni.net > Subject: Re: [HAM] Percussion & Matching Transformer > > Jordan, > > If you want to make your organ precisely like a 3-series organ, you > have to add the 3.9M resistor (R1), a 1M resistor (R2), and a 470pF > capacitor (C1) in parallel with the 1M resistor. It's all there in > the service manual. Just compare the 2-series and 3-series wiring > diagrams. There's a picture that shows you exactly where the > additional components go. > > Also, the Preset Percussion Switch under the Upper B preset key in 3- > series organs guarantees that R1 (3.9M) is shorted when presets other > than B are selected. If Percussion was left On with Percussion Volume > at Normal, the volume of the Upper Manual would be reduced on ALL > presets. (In other words, there are TWO switches that short R1 > restore full manual volume; a switch in the percussion switch > assembly shorts it at certain settings, and the switch under the B > preset shorts it when any other preset is pushed down.) This switch > under the preset key is not present in organs before the 3-series, > and retrofitting one could be a bit tricky. > > Or, like Scott says, you can leave out the two resistors and the > capacitor, and your percussion will work fine. These components have > nothing to do with the triggering, harmonics, etc... You'll just end > up with one shielded cable from the percussion switch that doesn't > connect to anything and doesn't need to. > > David > > On Jan 10, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Jordan Kersten wrote: > >> >> >> Thank you for that detailed explanation, it was exactly what I was >> looking for. I only have one last question: If I have a B2 with an >> AO-10 D, E, F or G, then my matching transformer is the same that >> is in a 3-series organ and the only mod I would have to make is to >> add the 3.9M resistor for the percussion circuit? >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------- >>> From: thermionic27609 at earthlink.net >>> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:36:38 -0500 >>> To: hammond at zeni.net >>> Subject: Re: [HAM] Percussion & Matching Transformer >>> >>> >>> Jordan, >>> >>> The answer is a bit complicated, so bear with me. >>> >>> Page 2-25 of the Hammond service manual reads that the early 2-series >>> organs used "small core transformers" with AO-10 preamplifiers with >>> codes A, B, and C. >>> >>> The later 2-series organs with AO-10s D, E, F, and G (plus all 3- >>> series organs) used "revised small-core transformers with smaller >>> stack and greater number of turns." >>> >>> The manual says these matching transformers types are not >>> interchangeable, but your mileage may vary. The two groups of AO-10s >>> do have somewhat different input circuits. >>> >>> The modifications to the matching transformer wiring to make it like >>> a 3-series organ aren't too complicated, though you may need more >>> solder terminals. What these resistors do is to lower the volume of >>> the entire upper manual at certain percussion settings. Some people >>> don't like this effect and jumper the 3.9M resistor permanently out >>> of circuit to maintain full volume on the upper manual at all times. >>> You might also want to add the special preset switch under the B >>> preset key, present in 3-series organs, but not in 2-series models. >>> >>> One effect you have to deduce from the wiring is that the cable >>> capacitance of the wiring used to short the 3.9M resistor becomes >>> significant due to the high value of the resistor. My calculations >>> indicate it should be about 400pF, and the effect is that the volume >>> is reduced less at higher frequencies since this cable capacitance >>> bypasses the 3.9M resistor. My theory is that the 470pF cap across >>> the 1M resistor is there to compensate for this cable capacitance, >>> and you could tune this 470pF value to taste, especially based on the >>> capacitance of the cable you have running from the percussion switch >>> to the matching transformer assembly. Lower capacitance cable might >>> make a smaller capacitor of 220pF-330pF useful. >>> >>> Bottom line: your percussion circuits will work just fine without the >>> extra resistors and capacitor. It all depends on whether you want it >>> to work exactly as Hammond designed it for the 3-series organs. >>> >>> David A. >>> >>> On Jan 10, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Jordan Kersten wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Does anyone know exactly what the difference between a B2 and B3 >>>> matching transformer is? I know that the B3's have some sort of a >>>> resistor that has to do with percussion volume, and the B2's >>>> wouldn't have this. Are the transformers themselves the same? Can >>>> you modify a B2's transformer with the percussion circuitry it >>>> needs? Or would you have to replace the B2 transformer with a B3- >>>> style one? I am converting a B2 to a B3. I now have tracked down >>>> the plate with percussion tabs, the AO-28 preamp, smooth drawbars >>>> and even a newer style vibrato line box. I have herd that they >>>> have different transformers. Can anyone comment on this? >>>> >>>> >>>> -Jordan- >>> >>> -- >>> Subscription Options/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.zeni.net/hf/ >>> Hammond-Leslie FAQ: http://theatreorgans.com/hammond/faq/ >>> HammondWiki: http://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/ >>> hammond at zk3.dec.com archives: http://zk3.hammondforum.com/ >>> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Watch “Cause Effect,” a show about real people making a real >> difference. >> http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause >> -- >> Subscription Options/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.zeni.net/hf/ >> Hammond-Leslie FAQ: http://theatreorgans.com/hammond/faq/ >> HammondWiki: http://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/ >> hammond at zk3.dec.com archives: http://zk3.hammondforum.com/ >> > > > -- > Subscription Options/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.zeni.net/hf/ > Hammond-Leslie FAQ: http://theatreorgans.com/hammond/faq/ > HammondWiki: http://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/ > hammond at zk3.dec.com archives: http://zk3.hammondforum.com/ > _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_012008
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