[HAM] Vedr. New B3 Was: Vedr. I found this imformative

[Ivar Berg]

Thanks Kon. You know what this is all about. Hope many
will read your mail.
The Leslies are of great importance. The drivers even
more.
I don’t cut the head of digital replacements.
They sound great. But where‘s the soul?
It’s all about the feeling you get when sitting
in front of one of those old big monsters. As Keith
Emerson stated: It makes you perform! And that’s
the most important thing from my side of view.




--- Kon Zissis <kziss at ozemail.com.au> skrev:

> Hi Iva , Scott and everyone
> A few years ago I went to the local Hammond dealer
> to  measure the TG
> output levels of a wax capped 1964 C3 and a red
> mylar capped 1966 C3
> organ , and there was a New B3 there connected to a
> modern  Hammond
> Suzuki Leslie with a ferro fluid driver. I played
> the New B3 for a few
> minutes through the new Leslie , and apart from the
> particular tonal
> characteristics of the ferro flud driver , the New
> B3 sounded very good.
> After a few minutes of playing the New B3 , the shop
> owner asked me to
> turn the volume level down so therefore I took out
> my Senheisser HD-424
> headphones  and I plugged them into the New B3 and
> through these
> headphones the New B3 sounded practically identical
> to how my 1962 C3
> sounds when I listen to it through this same set of
> headphones . Even
> the key click of the New B3 sounded similar to that
> of my C3 . The New
> B3 also sounded similar to the red mylar capped 1966
> C3 organ that was
> at the shop.
>  
> I saw the Youtube clip with Tony Monaco advertising
> the New B3, and I
> think that the real reason why some people were
> unimpressed with the
> sound is because of the tonality of the Hammond
> Suzuki Leslie with the
> ferro fluid driver instead of the problem being with
> New B3 itself. As
> well as this , the microphone on the camera might
> have affected the
> sound quality.
>  
> I have attended a number of organ promotional
> clinics featuring the New
> B3 played through the new Hammond Suzuki Leslies ,
> and I have been  to
> Jazz/ Blues/ Rock  gigs that  featured the New B3
> Portable , including
> last year's Michel Benebig  live gig where he 
> played the New B3
> Portable through a Hammond Suzuki Leslie. These new
> Leslies with the
> ferro fluid driver all had that particular brighter
> upper midrange and
> treble tone that sounds different and to my ears is
> not as pleasant as
> the sound of the old Leslies with the Jensen V21
> treble driver. 
>  
> A number of other people on the Hammond forums have
> also written that
> they do not like the sound of the Leslies with the
> ferro fluid driver
> because of the brighter upper midrange and treble
> sound.  
>  
> I have seen a Youtube  clip of the New B3 being
> played through an old
> Leslie and this sounded practically
> indistinguishable  from a real tone
> wheel  Hammond organ.
>  
> The New B3 is designed to sound like a Hammond organ
> when it was new  so
> therefore those who prefer the sound of the pre 1964
> organs with the
> aged wax capacitors on the TG  will probably not
> like the sound of the
> New B3 as much similar to how some people hate the
> sound of recapped pre
> 1964 organs and red mylar capped post 1964 organs.
>  
> It would have been great if the New B3 had the
> recalibratable digital TG
> note  output levels feature that the XK3 has 
> because this would have
> allowed you to customize the sound of the New B3  to
> your own preference
> thus ensuring that your New B3 could sound unique
> like each real Hammond
> tone wheel organ does.
>  
> Although I do love and I definitely prefer playing a
> real tone wheel
> Hammond  and I also like the oil smell , my
> experience is different from
> many people here because I am younger and I have not
> been playing
> Hammonds for decades.  I was used to playing clone
> organs until I was
> finally able to buy a real C3 organ so therefore I
> do not judge the
> clone organs  by how the keyboard feels or the
> smell, but instead  I
> judge them mainly  by how they actually sound.
> Having said that , the
> real tone wheel Hammonds do have the best keyboard
> feel and now that I
> am used to playing  the real Hammonds , some of the
> clones such as the
> Nord Electro do feel almost like ''toy organs''. 
> All the best.
> Kon
>  
>  
>  
> Iva Berg wrote:
> >  Cause it isn't,and never will be. Not even close!
>  
> Scott Hawthorn replied:
> Not even close? I think it's damn close, except for
> the smell and the 
> weight! I think it weighs around a third of a "real
> B-3." I'm not trying
> 
> seriously to defend it, but it's not so bad. I'm a
> firm believer in
> playing 
> whatever pleases you and what you need to do to play
> your gig.
>  
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